In this episode, hosted by Associate Professor Dr Paula King and Gabrielle Baker, we discuss the different ways Kaupapa Māori rangahau can be shared with communities – not just with fellow academics or policy-makers.
As you’ll hear in this episode, the TIAKI project has used multiple different ways to share our findings. This includes our podcast (obviously), but also zines (or self-published booklets), comic books (or as well call it, a graphic novella), art workshops, performance (specifically Theatre Marae) and toikupu (poetry).

Listen to episode 4
Episode 4 has interviews with some of our fan faves from episode 1: Professor Tracey McIntosh, Associate Professor Donna Cormack, Professor Kathryn Gilbey, Professor Marshall Chin, and Cheryl Davies. You’ll also hear from playwright Helen Pearse-Otene and from Jordan Tane – a member of the TIAKI Rōpū Rangahau and the person responsible for the graphic design and branding we’ve used for the TIAKI pod, and the illustrator of our graphic novella.
We have a special guest appearance by poet and colleague of ours Belinda Tuari-Toma who wrote and performs a poem about the research.

The supporting zine for this week’s episode is a toikupu zine, TIAKI. The poem is written by Belinda Tuari-Toma and formatted by Jordan Tane.
No generative AI was used in the creation of the zine or any part of the TIAKI podcast.
This episode was hosted by Associate Professor Dr Paula Toko King and Gabrielle Baker and features segments from interviews with Professor Tracey McIntosh, Associate Professor Donna Cormack, Professor Kathryn Gilbey, Professor Marshall Chin, Cheryl Davies, Helen Pearse-Otene and Jordan Tane.
The podcast was recorded at Tīhei Rangatahi, Wainuiomata. Snow Chase was our sound tech.
The podcast music – ‘He kōrero nui tō ngākau’/Your heart has an important story’ was composed by Paula Toko King and Nona King. Taonga puoro, piano soundboard, and piano performed by Paula Toko King and Nona King. Additional bird calls by korimako and pīwakawaka. The music was also recorded by Snow Chase.
Chin, M. H. (2026, August 10). Teaching spotlight: Teaching health equity with improv. Chicago Center for Teaching and Learning, University of Chicago. Link here
Chin, M. H., & Muramatsu, N. (2026). Improvisational theater and health equity training. JAMA Network Open, 9(7), Article e2625637. Link here
Neufeld, J. (2023a, December 21). Empathy 101: How medical schools are using improv theater, virtual reality and comics to help physicians understand their patients. The Journalist’s Resource. Link here
Neufeld, J. (2023b, December 22). This comic shows how med schools are using improv, virtual reality and, yes, comics to help doctors and patients communicate. Chicago Sun-Times. Link here
Pearse-Otene, H. (2020). Theatre Marae: Māori theatre pedagogy in research. MAI Journal, 9(3), 227–237. Link here
Pearse-Otene, H. (2021). Decolonising theatre and ensemble training in Aotearoa/New Zealand: Te Rākau Hua o Te Wao Tapu Theatre. Theatre, Dance and Performance Training, 12(1), 95–111. Link here